Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Why are some Friend so unable to forgive?

So unable to listen to people who care about them?


I am upset because I got in a war of posts with a Friend who I thought was a friend, about 10 months ago. It was over a decision by he and his wife not to have their children immunized against swine flu. I took exception to his claim that he was invoking a religious exemption.

Here is one email I sent:

Dear M*****

I am sorry for my nasty words yesterday. I let my anger get the better of me, and must admit a bit of ego got in the way as in how dare you question my expertise, as well as that of the medical establishment in general . I don't want to lose our friendship over this.

But I am still quite worried about your children and would beg you to reconsider your stance on these vaccines. Have you refused other vaccines. I pray not, some are truly lifesaving. And then there is the issue of unvaccinated children passing their infections on to other children. Remember we vaccinate all children to protect one another. This is public health basics, so please know it is not just your children a shot protects. What it the proper Christian approach to this opportunity to help one another? And would you feel bad if your child say got chicken pox and gave them to a child who for some reason was more susceptible (no vaccines are perfectly effective) and got a fatal superinfection? What about whooping cough, babies die, do you want one of your friend's young children to get it from yours?

And from a larger perspective, Glanz says the findings also show "that the decision to refuse immunizations could have important ramifications for the health of the entire community. Based on our analysis, we found that 1 in 10 additional whooping cough infections could have been prevented by immunization"

But finally I want to point out the lack of truth in claiming a religious objection to having your child vaccinated. I know there is no doctrine on this in either the Catholic or Quaker faiths. (not much doctrine at all for us Quakers, LOL). Saying your dialog with God led you to this decision should undergo discernment with a priest and in a Quaker clearness gathering. Have you done that. If you say your faith in God is so strong you do not need vaccines, I have to ask you why go to a doctor at all?I cannot see picking and choosing to which aspects of medical care to let your children have is based on true spiritual guidance. Bottom line, this claiming of religious objection has the loud ring of untruth about it

Again, all my passion on this is a true concern for your children's health....

never heard back from him. Sent this when I was not given access to a blog this person runs:

M*****

I tried to join a few months ago and did not receive notification. I can only hope I am not being excluded because of our disagreement over your decision to not immunize your children. That would not be in keeping with open dialog in Quaker tradition. Nor I might add in the spirit of eldering....I hope if you have control over who gets in this web site you will forgive me my anger....and allow me to join the conversation. Let's bury the verbal hatchets so to speak

Peace, Wayne
and then I tried once again to join and was SUSPENDED, allowed no access to even view posts. Unbelievable, no attempt to even dialog with me. I tried to apologize but no forgiveness. See my rejection:



Then I got sneaky. Tried to sign up under a fake name, using a different email account and a different browser. Here is the response I got:

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